Sarah Birss, MD, Ann Epstein, MD, and Judith Arons, LICSW (1947-2014), received the Arthur R. Kravitz Award for Community Action and Humanitarian Contributions in 2011 for their creative and committed work applying psychoanalytic and developmental principles in training therapists to do psychotherapy with parents and infants at the Infant Parent Training Institute at JF&CS of Greater Boston. Drs. Epstein’s and Birss’s conversation about their work was recorded on January 31, 2020 in the BPSI Library.